Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.27 02:52:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Innominate wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Innominate wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Other than CCP believes they are trustworthy, and since all of the items in question (ISK and ship prizes) ultimately only belong to CCP it's their opinion of honesty that matters. CCP believes they have been trustworthy in the past. You'll notice there is nothing in the words to suggest any sort of agreement that somer needs to be fair, or needs to donate all of the proceeds to the tournament. Merely a suggestion that because they've been apparently fair in the past they might continue to be in the future. From what we know, somer can do anything they want with the prizes and lottery proceeds that they want. This is EVE Online. We all know what happens next. You're reaching friend.  What do you think somer blink is? Trackable... just like everything you do, and everything I do. Yes, they can try to do anything they like... that doesn't mean there would not be repercussions from the community (and far more importantly from CCP) that would make the attempt EXTREMELY unwise. This is a drop in the bucket compared to what condemnation from CCP would do to their business model. They would have to be inconceivably stupid to play games in this matter.
Their operation isn't really trackable though, becaquse there's no way to track the relationship between characters.
I'm generally willing to give CCP the benefit of the doubt over most issues, and even here, I don't believe there's any deliberate attempt at favouritism. Having said that, I don't think the current giveaway project has been fully thought through.
As I see it, the big issue here is that an event like that not only has to be fair, but has to be seen to be fair because of past history like the T20 episode. Even if the whole event could be monitored by CCP, accounting for every ISK, it wouldn't be enough because, unless the records were made public, doubt would still exist.
I think it's great that CCP are trying to promote and encourage community projects, but I think they have to ensure that any promotion, particularly when involving in-game items or ISK, is run in a completely transparent way. I believe that this event is being run in good faith, but I can understand why other people may need a little more evidence.
It may be a good thing if CCP and the CSM can manage to put in place some kind of framework for ensuring transparency (perhaps along the lines of an extremely simplified version of the ISO9000 standards). An organization would need to comply with these standards/rules Or maybe that's going too far, I dunno :) |
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:13:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:Abernie wrote:
So CCP should arbitrarily choose entities to give isk to, just because? Yes. That will end well. Maybe it could be cans of t2 bpos next.
What is arbitrary about it? It's a business deal. It's beneficial to both parties. Does a beer company just pick an arbitrary racing team to sponsor or do they pick one they think will win some races and give their brand good exposure?
That argument would legitimise CCP giving, say, T2 BPOs to the site owners without any fanfare - "guys, here's a little something for making a site that involves the community and promotes our game".
Are you seriously saying that would be ok?
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